New skill | Tue Mar 15 03:08:04 2011 MST |
| Given that we've got honor of the gods for hps, and endowment of the gods for eps, is there any reason there's no similar skill that pertains to sps? If not, we should get one.
And by get one I mean pretty please will someone code it. |
>New skill | Fri Mar 18 19:19:18 2011 MST |
| On Tue Mar 15 03:08:04 2011 Crabstick wrote post #720: > Given that we've got honor of the gods for hps, and endowment of the > gods for eps, is there any reason there's no similar skill that > pertains to sps? If not, we should get one. > > And by get one I mean pretty please will someone code it.
I think we had this at one point, long ago. |
>>New skill | Sat Mar 19 10:56:33 2011 MST |
| On Fri Mar 18 19:19:18 2011 Taliph wrote post #724: > On Tue Mar 15 03:08:04 2011 Crabstick wrote post #720: > > Given that we've got honor of the gods for hps, and endowment of the > > gods for eps, is there any reason there's no similar skill that > > pertains to sps? If not, we should get one. > > > > And by get one I mean pretty please will someone code it. > > I think we had this at one point, long ago.
It could be argued that casters get a shitload more sp regen than fighter types get ep regen, so it's a lot easier to justify EotG than it would be to justify an equivalent mastery for spr.
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>>>New skill | Sun Mar 20 05:44:59 2011 MST |
| On Sat Mar 19 10:56:33 2011 Tranquil wrote post #725: > On Fri Mar 18 19:19:18 2011 Taliph wrote post #724: > > On Tue Mar 15 03:08:04 2011 Crabstick wrote post #720: > > > Given that we've got honor of the gods for hps, and endowment of the > > > gods for eps, is there any reason there's no similar skill that > > > pertains to sps? If not, we should get one. > > > > > > And by get one I mean pretty please will someone code it. > > > > I think we had this at one point, long ago. > > It could be argued that casters get a shitload more sp regen than > fighter types get ep regen, so it's a lot easier to justify EotG > than it would be to justify an equivalent mastery for spr. > Can't really make a direct comparison between the two, given sps are (in the majority of cases) where all the damage/healing/general effectiveness of casters come from, while people with EotG do melee damage as well.
Plus generally there's a shitload more to regen in the way of sps than eps |
>>>>New skill | Sun Mar 20 07:48:10 2011 MST |
| On Sun Mar 20 05:44:59 2011 Crabstick wrote post #726: > On Sat Mar 19 10:56:33 2011 Tranquil wrote post #725: > > On Fri Mar 18 19:19:18 2011 Taliph wrote post #724: > > > On Tue Mar 15 03:08:04 2011 Crabstick wrote post #720: > > > > Given that we've got honor of the gods for hps, and endowment of the > > > > gods for eps, is there any reason there's no similar skill that > > > > pertains to sps? If not, we should get one. > > > > > > > > And by get one I mean pretty please will someone code it. > > > > > > I think we had this at one point, long ago. > > > > It could be argued that casters get a shitload more sp regen than > > fighter types get ep regen, so it's a lot easier to justify EotG > > than it would be to justify an equivalent mastery for spr. > > > Can't really make a direct comparison between the two, given sps are > (in the majority of cases) where all the damage/healing/general > effectiveness of casters come from, while people with EotG do melee > damage as well. > > Plus generally there's a shitload more to regen in the way of sps than eps You should note that a maxxed healer can easily refresh 800-1k eps in 2 rounds, with about 150-200 sps (havent been healer for too long so i'm not sure of costs).. However, there is only ONE skill to restore sps, and that is lay hands, takes enough time for you to walk to your fridge, grab a can of drink and walk back to your computer/laptop, and it restores like 200 sps..
What does the whole story means? It means that spr is worth more than eps, and implementing spr version of endowment would mean that it can and will ONLY exist in a WAY downtuned manner (provided it is actually implemented). Casters will almost ALWAYS regard spr as one of the most important stats to consider while leveling and getting EQ. On the other hand, there are almost no fighters there who would do so for epr; epr would be an optional bonus stat if it exists in their EQ.
-HP, after endless idling for more than half a month. |
>>>>>New skill | Tue Mar 22 23:34:31 2011 MST |
| On Sun Mar 20 07:48:10 2011 Highpriest wrote post #727: > .. However, there is only ONE skill to restore sps, and that is lay hands,..
Don't forget crapfires & animist herbs for druids, dream of wellsprings in the witch tree, and regeneration trance for evokers - though this last one is self-only. Add a well-trained bard to any eq party and it's unlikely to suffer from sp tappage to any noticable degree, likewise for exp parties if the casters have decent sets, though no amount of bardage will prevent a melee party from tapping eps quickly.
As Crabstick put it, casters and melee types are quite different, and cannot be directly compared; the lack of an sp equivalent to HoG/EoG is an appropriate reflection of that difference.
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>>>>>>New skill | Wed Mar 23 07:14:53 2011 MST |
| On Tue Mar 22 23:34:31 2011 Tranquil wrote post #728: > On Sun Mar 20 07:48:10 2011 Highpriest wrote post #727: > > .. However, there is only ONE skill to restore sps, and that is lay hands,.. > > Don't forget crapfires & animist herbs for druids, dream of > wellsprings in the witch tree, and regeneration trance for evokers - > though this last one is self-only. Add a well-trained bard to any eq > party and it's unlikely to suffer from sp tappage to any noticable > degree, likewise for exp parties if the casters have decent sets, > though no amount of bardage will prevent a melee party from tapping > eps quickly. > > As Crabstick put it, casters and melee types are quite different, > and cannot be directly compared; the lack of an sp equivalent to > HoG/EoG is an appropriate reflection of that difference. >
not to mention diffuse magic, mana drain, and soul drain. |
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